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What is the License of Orange PiPC+ design files ?

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Published in 2017-9-18 22:34:56 | Show all floors |Read mode
Hello,

I'm trying to make available an open source and open hardware        solution to be deployed in french schools.
        
The goal of this project is to provide an open hardware SBC        with educational open source software and open source operating        system. We will try to adapt http://primtux.fr/        (Debian OS for childs from 6 to 10 years old, made by teacher        community and already used in some schools). You can find here my post to the PrimTux community about        the research of open hardware SBC ( http://forum.primtux.fr/viewforum.php?id=3        )
        
        I'm actually benchmarking wich SBC could be used. Members of the armbian community told me that Orange Pi PC+ could be an excellent choice (you can see here the needs and the reply https://forum.armbian.com/index. ... ments#comment-37500 )
        
        For each SBC we also study and benchmark the open harware side. We want to select a SBC with Open Hardware licence, to support the constructors... that support Open Hardware.
        
        1) What is the open hardware licence of the Orange Pi PC+ ? and        where I can see it in the web that Orange Pi PC+ has this licence        (for example there is CC-BY-SA for Olimex cards, you can see it        in their github design files). I didn't found the license on the Orange_pi-pc_plus_v1_1 schemetic in the dowload page.There is also other licenses that are maybe more        adapted to open hardware : https://www.oshwa.org/sharing-best-practices/ or in https://www.oshwa.org/faq/ we can see :

What license should I use?
In general, there are two broad classes of open-source licenses: copyleft and permissive. Copyleft licenses (also referred to as “share-alike” or “viral”) are those which require derivative works to be released under the same license as the original; common copyleft licenses include the GNU General Public License (GPL) and the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license. Other copyleft licenses have been specifically designed for hardware; they include the CERN Open Hardware License (OHL) and the TAPR Open Hardware License (OHL). Permissive licenses are those which allow for proprietary (closed) derivatives; they include the FreeBSD license, the MIT license, and the Creative Commons Attribution license. The Solderpad Hardware License is a hardware-specific permissive license.
Licenses that prevent commercial use are not compatible with open-source; see this question for more.
Please note that the open-source hardware definition is not a license, although it does describe some of the license terms which are compatible with the practice of open-source hardware.
In choosing a license, you should first want to decide whether or not you want to require people to open-source derivatives they make of your design. If so, pick a copyleft license; if not, a permissive license. Beyond that, the differences between licenses can be subtle, you may want to talk to a lawyer or someone with experience in open-source to help you pick one.

          Thanks for your help,
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Published in 2017-9-22 15:46:35 | Show all floors
Hi, afaik Media codec and Mali driver are not open, wifi chipset certification could be problematic too apart from wifiless pipc. and overall screen prices is a problem you would need HDMI crt , while using refurbished mini-PC would allow use old VGA monitor.
Do you know that big french companies are sending to trash *every day*  1 year old SSD drives,  3 TB disk or xeon PC etc ... . Why not write about about stopping that waste and starting to care about education sector ?

Et sinon GNU/Linux à l'école ? Bonne chance ....
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Hi
Thanks a lot for your feedback.
afaik Media codec and Mali driver are not open, wifi chipset certification could be problematic too apart from wifiless pipc.

Yes this is an other problem - step :/  
The idea of the project is to make it as open source / open hardware as possible for now, fully open source/ophardware will take time. Starting by finding a SBC with open hardware licence for the design is one of the first steps.
and overall screen prices is a problem you would need HDMI crt , while using refurbished mini-PC would allow use old VGA monitor.

The refurbished is a good strategy, there is a lot of initiative with this. But in some case it's not possible, or too much difficult, so the idea is to provide an alternative in this case. For example we spent 10 hours without success to install PrimTux in a refurbished laptop. Imagine if you have to do it for 20 laptop...
For the screen problems, With Raspberry Pi and C.H.I.P SBC it works nice with HDMI-VGA converter. So I'm testing if we can have a the same possibility with a powerfull open hardware SBC. Let see, I'm waiting the OPiPC+ for tests.
Do you know that big french companies are sending to trash *every day*  1 year old SSD drives,  3 TB disk or xeon PC etc ... . Why not write about about stopping that waste and starting to care about education sector ?

I knowed for computer, but didn't know for 1 year old SSD... there is already some local initiative with this in France, and if we can reach this SBC project we will certainly try to make more easier the reuse of disk drives, keyboard, laptop, screens for schools.  We can also see this project as a try to have a lowcost and easy solution that make easier the refurbish of screen, keyboard and mouse for schools .
Et sinon GNU/Linux à l'école ? Bonne chance ....

Merci ! ça avance You can check it it : https://carto.framasoft.org/tags/primtux This carto project has started to localize on maps the use of opens source / libre solutions in France. We can see with this URL who use PrimTux in schools. I tried to deploy PrimTux locally, but we had problems with materials (not possible to use/ not enough / installation of PrimTux failed) , so I start this project to make it more easier when you have this kind problem

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