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New OPi Zero (v1.4 PCB) - High temperatures

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Post time 2017-5-20 20:03:23 | Show all posts |Read mode
Edited by bozden at 2017-5-22 07:16

My new Orange Pi Zero has very high temperatures (continious cooling state). Using Armbian I get 65 C. I found that the PCB version is upgraded to v1.4 and some voltage regulator circuitry changed.

Does anyoone have a similar issue? Can OPi mods confirm this change? Can ve have the new circuit design?

More info, images and test results are in the following tread:
https://forum.armbian.com/index. ... -temperature-issue/

Thank you...

OPi's: 3 Zero, 4 One, 1 Plus, 1 PC2, 1 cam
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Post time 2017-6-29 09:37:56 | Show all posts
admin replied at 2017-5-31 14:18
Our engineer explained that for me: the version 1.4 has upgraded the wifi signal and the entire sy ...

This is a very unwelcome and surprising change which was not indicated anywhere before purchase. The previous version of the board runs happily on under 500mW with the SoC at 34C and I made an order of 10 boards with this in mind.

I have not had an opportunity to test power consumption yet, but even with the GPU, Wifi, Ethernet, and USB off, and the CPU and RAM set to minimum clock the new board is sitting at 55C. This makes these boards useless for the purpose they were purchased for.

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Post time 2017-6-29 19:01:16 | Show all posts
Edited by data at 2017-6-29 19:03

Right. And Wifi is still as crappy as it can get. So, where's the improvement?
Since it is the same CPU as in the older revisions, maybe they are feeding to much voltage?
Someone mentioned that the new design apparently has some changes around the voltage controller.

Where's the schematic for the new design?

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Post time 2017-5-24 14:55:06 | Show all posts
Hi friend, yes, i read your post, and i will ask our engineer to solve out the schematics.

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 Author| Post time 2017-5-24 16:15:20 | Show all posts
Good to know... In its current state the new board is useless. Can you confirm high temperatures on your setups? I have only a single v1.4 board...
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Post time 2017-5-31 14:18:17 | Show all posts
bozden replied at 2017-5-24 16:15
Good to know... In its current state the new board is useless. Can you confirm high temperatures on  ...

Our engineer explained that for me: the version 1.4 has upgraded the wifi signal and the entire system perfermance. If temperature upto 70 degree celsius, it should be normal. Before selling, our factory aging test it for more than 24h at the tempeature exceed to 85degree celsius.

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 Author| Post time 2017-5-31 16:52:19 | Show all posts
Understood. That means active cooling is a must...
Thank you.
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 Author| Post time 2017-5-31 17:24:17 | Show all posts
BTW, what is the point in increasing performance when the cooling state is always on (thus decreasing performance)?
OPi's: 3 Zero, 4 One, 1 Plus, 1 PC2, 1 cam
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Post time 2017-6-1 14:34:56 | Show all posts
i recently had the v1.4 too. without active cooling mine hit 80c. my room ambient is 30c.

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Post time 2017-6-22 14:06:47 | Show all posts
Is there any update on this issue? Even with added heat sinks, temperature does not drop below 70°C in idle mode.  Once load increases, temperature goes well above 80°C making this device for 24/7 use next to useless!

Can this be addressed somehow? Maybe decreasing core voltage?

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 Author| Post time 2017-6-22 21:42:30 | Show all posts
If you use Armbian you can underclock, shut down unused parts etc using h3consumption tool (I did not try it on OPi Zero thou).

But as far as I can see a small fan is a must. You can use a 12V 40x40 one with some undervolting to also get rid of the added noise (mine worked fine around 9V)...
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Post time 2017-6-23 04:36:29 | Show all posts
Edited by data at 2017-6-23 04:37

Sorry, but a fan is not an option where I intend to use it. I already added a heat sink which would normally
do the job. I bought the zero so I do not need any active cooling at all. At least it was this way until v1.4

Imagine having bought a new car just to learn that  you must drive only half the promised speed in order to not kill the engine. That's how I feel.
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